That thread image on X that made me wonder if the Indian migrations here will add to the perennialism trend, as even some of ourguys have with Guenon (diagnoses a lot of modern problems but fails to submit to Christ).
Others are getting into Evola, along with the Stormy Waters guy many are having on their podcasts who says he is a Christian but openly teaches sigil magick and promotes hermeticism, saying it's just mechanical, no demons involved and not evil so blends well with Christianity). I got interested in his material then those red flags came up and felt like I was being sucked right back into the same thing CS Lewis said about being intoxicated with the occult.
Because I got sucked into both perennialism and Upanishad type material for a time and when you mix psychedelics in, and start getting visions of being god, the spell that comes over you is something that you are sure is real until God breaks you out of it.
After escaping it, I felt that perennialism would be part of the Globalized New World Religion, as the Perennialist/Hindu (Atman-Brahman), stuff tempted me hard even after conversion when I was a new believer and still from time to time I get those flashbacks.
It's why I've really appreciated guys talking about James B Jordan, Barfield, Lewis, Tolkien, etc... as that satisfies the longing for that type of thing many of us have, without falling off the edge, as many are hungry for the mystical and want re-enchantment; this was good recently on divine pattern and Tolkien.
The psychedelic drug rightwing will likely be a means to either honeypot or de-politicize a lot of people who are looking for more than what's on offer. It will be a horrible graveyard for the well meaning but misguided, alas.
I thought the same thing about stormy waters, he seems to be wearing a “catholic” skinsuit while underneath its a demonic and hermetic. Unfortunately common phenomenon i see online.
“Like Roman paganism, it is tolerant and inclusive, a pantheon for all the gods. What it cannot abide, as modern Western Humanism cannot abide, is exclusivity and intolerance. Many forms of Christianity have already abandoned a Christian worldview, they have accepted the pre-critical dispositions of the current age and thus entirely susceptible to becoming something else altogether.”
Are you saying here that the pre-critical dispositions of the current age are just tolerance and inclusivity? Or do you have in mind a wider array of categories?
Particularly, the ecumenical toleration and inclusivity that is intolerant of intolerance (or intolerant of being anti-ecumenical) and therefore many modern Christians don't have a means to reject alien ideas that pollute the truth. A standard example is how Christian belief X is unloving, bigoted, legalistic, etc because it violates our pre-critical evaluations of tolerance and inclusivity.
But maybe God and his reality is unloving, bigoted, legalistic, etc!
There are a few other categories, but tolerance/inclusivity is a big one. Others would be equality and individualized self-expression, but these are different from Roman paganism.
I don't think Hinduism is as much of a "threat" as you make it out to be, I certainly think Hindus in the West don't want to be, but if you're looking for a fight, square up, I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"The post-colonial Hindus capitalized on the legacy of Orientalism and gave us Perennialism and Theosophy"
https://files.catbox.moe/2vpq4g.png
https://xcancel.com/_bonaventurian/status/1872874112584171582
That thread image on X that made me wonder if the Indian migrations here will add to the perennialism trend, as even some of ourguys have with Guenon (diagnoses a lot of modern problems but fails to submit to Christ).
Others are getting into Evola, along with the Stormy Waters guy many are having on their podcasts who says he is a Christian but openly teaches sigil magick and promotes hermeticism, saying it's just mechanical, no demons involved and not evil so blends well with Christianity). I got interested in his material then those red flags came up and felt like I was being sucked right back into the same thing CS Lewis said about being intoxicated with the occult.
Because I got sucked into both perennialism and Upanishad type material for a time and when you mix psychedelics in, and start getting visions of being god, the spell that comes over you is something that you are sure is real until God breaks you out of it.
After escaping it, I felt that perennialism would be part of the Globalized New World Religion, as the Perennialist/Hindu (Atman-Brahman), stuff tempted me hard even after conversion when I was a new believer and still from time to time I get those flashbacks.
It's why I've really appreciated guys talking about James B Jordan, Barfield, Lewis, Tolkien, etc... as that satisfies the longing for that type of thing many of us have, without falling off the edge, as many are hungry for the mystical and want re-enchantment; this was good recently on divine pattern and Tolkien.
https://thesaxoncross.substack.com/p/the-cauldron-of-reality
The psychedelic drug rightwing will likely be a means to either honeypot or de-politicize a lot of people who are looking for more than what's on offer. It will be a horrible graveyard for the well meaning but misguided, alas.
I thought the same thing about stormy waters, he seems to be wearing a “catholic” skinsuit while underneath its a demonic and hermetic. Unfortunately common phenomenon i see online.
The Elect
Thank you for this. It brings light to why I committed my failures as a younger man.
Father Seraphim Rose talks about this
“Like Roman paganism, it is tolerant and inclusive, a pantheon for all the gods. What it cannot abide, as modern Western Humanism cannot abide, is exclusivity and intolerance. Many forms of Christianity have already abandoned a Christian worldview, they have accepted the pre-critical dispositions of the current age and thus entirely susceptible to becoming something else altogether.”
Are you saying here that the pre-critical dispositions of the current age are just tolerance and inclusivity? Or do you have in mind a wider array of categories?
Particularly, the ecumenical toleration and inclusivity that is intolerant of intolerance (or intolerant of being anti-ecumenical) and therefore many modern Christians don't have a means to reject alien ideas that pollute the truth. A standard example is how Christian belief X is unloving, bigoted, legalistic, etc because it violates our pre-critical evaluations of tolerance and inclusivity.
But maybe God and his reality is unloving, bigoted, legalistic, etc!
There are a few other categories, but tolerance/inclusivity is a big one. Others would be equality and individualized self-expression, but these are different from Roman paganism.
Lay Hinduism is horoscopes.
Orthodox Vedic Dharma is the Khalsa
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
I don't think Hinduism is as much of a "threat" as you make it out to be, I certainly think Hindus in the West don't want to be, but if you're looking for a fight, square up, I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯