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MBWolves's avatar

In the Bhagavad Gita Krishna tells Arjuna to fight in a bloody civil war and kill his family members and former friends, and that if he refuses to do this he sins against his dharma - somehow I don't think DBH would much care for that kind of reasoning.

The universalist God erases Death but never erases any murderers. There is part of His creation which He hates, and ultimately will abolish, but no human consciousnessness ultimately is in that set of things. Its possible, but I think it has to at least be acknowledged that its very strange

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Really good stuff I will have to read twice to fully wrap my head around.

I remember reading "The Grand Demonstration" by Jay Adams years ago and after that I never questioned the goodness of God in light of the doctrine of eternal hell ever again; I realized the audacity of what it was as a fallen temporal creation to question the morality and justice of God and began to repent in humility.

It scares me when I see people trying to argue for universalism or make excuses for God knowing their motives are destain for what God has revealed to us, as if they are standing on a seat of higher moral authority looking down on God judging Him, often virtue signaling this to other fallen humans.

I wonder if supra-traditionalism is an apt term, where we maintain the skeletal Biblical doctrinal structure and first 4 councils, but the church body does change and grow to some degree with a future focus (also remember a video on "right-Hegelianism" by Thomas777 who's a Calvinist, that gave a dialectical/synthesis view of humanity and the church that was growing towards God's end but was over my head and idk if was right or not). As we can't even grasp or recreate the zeitgeist of 100 years ago, much less 2000 years ago.

Something else I've been thinking about is the Girardian sacrifice and the spirits of the age, where we went through a "tyrannical father" patriarchal period, which was good in many respects, but sometimes our grandfathers could be cold and distant, harsh. Then this leads to the "overbearing mother" of the 60's revolution leading to its peak at wokeness, female teachers trying to force pronouns, which leads to the "vengeful son" which is represented by the Luigi shooter. Uncle Ted being a vengeful son before his time so he wasn't readily accepted.

That the only way to combat this chaotic mimetic spirit, is to transform the vengeful son into the prodigal son in humility, repenting back to God and transforming that rage and anger many young guys have, to building positive constructive ends instead (saw a Jason Mironchuk podcast on this), rather than chaos and destruction out of pure resentment.

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